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Jeez Bob 8 second quarters. No wonder it needs a ladder length swinger. What class do you drag it in? I don't know if you are a New Yorker, but on my last visit there I saw, just up the road from MSG on 8th, a very stock looking CBR600 with silver paintjob and a 6in(?) swingarm extension. I checked under the bodywork for telltale tweaking signs but saw nothing. Surely, for the street, this would handle like a harpoon? Regards, Andy ---------- >Von: shammar / unix, mime >An: Evans, Andrew-ZA z.h.e.f.a. / zhwerd >Cc: turbobike / unix, mime; DCutler / unix, mime; jcperformance / unix, mime >Betreff: UNAUTHENTICATED: Re: [turbobike] Buell question >Datum: Donnerstag, 22. Juli 1999 14:38 > ><<Dateianlage: UNAUTHEN.TXT>> > > >You got me on the Z1 and cornering. It was actually okay when the swingarm was >extended 8 inches, as long as you didn't grab a handfull of throttle at low >speed. Now that it's 14" over and hardtail (not to mention a Goodyear on it), >cornering is out. The only intention of this bike at this point is eight second >quarter miles. The part I wasn't counting on is that it will still stand >straight up and down - and then you're WAY up in the air! > >Regards, >Bob > > > > > >andrew-za.evans@ubs.com on 07/22/99 04:56:18 AM > >To: turbobike@natvideo.com >cc: DCutler@Mundaca.com, jcperformance@juno.com, Bob > Shammas/EQA/Nsk-Corp@Nsk-Corp > >Subject: Re: [turbobike] Buell question > > > > >I must say that up until a month or so ago I was a 'torque virgin', >having only ever ridden midsized Jap fours, but I hired a Suzuki >TL1000S for the weekend and was blown away by that 'gutsy' reaction you >get cracking on at low revs. I've no idea what figures this bike >produced but I suspect it was similar to a stock Buell. That's why I >was left wondering how mad a blown twin would be. 1000 miles per rear? >Boost kicking in just above idle? Pretty damn mad then... >I can see why the Z-1 has been stretch limoed, but does it really make >it more rideable (eg around corners?!). I guess HDs are OK blown coz >they have alot of weight to pull around, making the torque improvement >ideal. I'm still pretty amazed by the reported reliability and >suitability of harley lumps when blown. You guys are proof of it >though, and a 'modified' X1 is definitely going to be my next project. >I just can't resist the thought of it and am becoming convinced that >the Buell is a decent machine, despite my anti-harley hang-ups. >Regards, >Andy > > > > > > > >> Its a pussycat to ride,...very linear power,....very progressive,....but >>you don't just wack it at 4,000 in first or second gear unless you like >>one wheel,...I have no use for that,...but of course its unavoidable when >>being challanged. I can tell you this,...its a lot easier to ride than >>an R-1 or ZX-9 with some motor work. > >>No need to rev to 7000 on the Buell. Boost starts at about 1500 and >>thats the beauty. No matter what rpm, roll on the throttle & GO. >>Passengers (especially the babes) love the exhaust grunt & slam in the >>gut you get with the torquey acceleration. Most people have no >>conception of horsepower, as it is a primarily top speed measurement. >>Torque, that kick in the butt to get you going, is the whole story on >>the street. Which is why Harley will forever sell decals and tattoos. > >>I think you just make sure you don't have TOO much tire so it doesn't fly-swat >>you all the time, then just replace 'em every 1000 miles or so. The >dealer who >>owns that full dresser, Roy Nicholson, is kind of a nut anyway. He's been >>riding since before he could crawl and really likes a bike that does silly >>things. He's also a raodracer and some of the guys from the shop said >they had >>trouble following that full dresser on a twisty road (??!!!), although >they were >>of questionable skill level (which goes without saying - come on, a full >>dresser?). >>Speaking of making bikes more ridable, here's a shot of my old Z1 which I just >>lengthened for that very reason: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>andrew-za.evans@ubs.com on 07/20/99 04:19:02 AM >> >>To: turbobike@natvideo.com >>cc: DCutler@Mundaca.com, jcperformance@juno.com, Bob >> Shammas/EQA/Nsk-Corp@Nsk-Corp >> >>Subject: Re: [turbobike] Buell question >> >> >> >> >>Aha, so there are a few about... This may sound like a very thick >>question (so what's new) >>but how the devil do you ride such torquey bikes? I can see with big >>inline fours that to just potter about (blown or stock) one just stays >>out of the power band higher in the revs, but a Buell/HD, are torquey >>enough anyway, and only rev thru to 5-6000 and that's it. So with a >>blower what do you do, just ride it around in 5th all day? If you can >>smoke a blown full dress, surely a relatively lively thing like the >>Buell is gonna eat tyres no matter how gently you try and ride it, coz >>the main thrust is coming in so low down. 110 horses at 5000 revs >>sounds mental. Makes my 6 seem puny. >>Hohum, roll on the next pay cheque. >>Regards, >>Andy >> >> >> >> >>><<Dateianlage: UNAUTHEN.TXT>> >>> I still have the turbo Buell,..been very busy in the shop. Went high >>>tens at 128 mph on a sweltering hot day last week with my very tall >>>street gearing. I think there's another couple of tenths in >>>it,....don't know if I can ride it any better tho. Not bad for a stock >>>1200 XL motor. Haven't had time for dyno runs in over a year,......but >>>the mph indicates mid ten's potential. BTW I have 28,000 miles on it >>>now,....still doesn't leak a drop unless i detonate it,.... >>> >> >>>I didn't do the post, but I have a Buell with an Aerocharger. My guess >>>is about 110 at the rear wheel. The new Harley dealer has offered free >>>dyno time as soon as their machine comes in. I'll turbo everything I >>>ever ride from now on. Swamp Boogie Doug >> >>>The owner of American Harley Davidson here in town put an Aerodyne kit on his >>>1340cc full dresser. That bike dynoed at 58Hp on the Dynojet when >>stock. With >>>9psi he was getting 94Hp and 110 ft.lb. out of it. That big beast is >>great for >>>laying black marks in the parking lot. I know he bumped the boost up >to 11psi >>>and saw 110Hp, but I'm not sure what the torque was. I suspect over >>125 ft.lb. >>>given the previous data. >> >> >> >> >><<Dateianlage: 75Z1_1.GIF>> > > > > > >